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Ron::Victoria Cupcake Dog::Me

So judging by my last post and the state of my flist, I guess there are some people out there who feel exactly like I do. Hey there!

Watch this clip, you guys. It's hilarious. It's cathartic. Embedding is disabled, but please click it. Worth it!

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The pained look in the tortured eyes of Cupcake Dog pretty much sums up how I as a viewer felt on Friday night.

All the things I wanted from the show's ending -- more play on the forgiveness and reconciliation theme -- Kara being happy/alive, or at least having some moment of praise -- Laura being a badass leader, central to the Opera House revelation rather than just another toddler-herder -- Lee taking up the mantle in a new land -- the best parts of their civilization surviving -- the rebel Cylons continuing to evolve and getting some way to reproduce -- the two peoples beginning the long and difficult process of healing and dealing with each other -- answers on Kara's return, why the fucking song is so damn important -- finding out why she was the least-informed and most angstily confused angel-messenger ever, if she just came from God -- some kind of coherent mythology -- better resolutions all around -- free will breaking the cycle -- satisfying character moments -- WOMEN NOT BEING THROTTLED TO DEATH AND OTHERS GOING YAY -- crazy space family being able to stay together instead of scattering to the four winds -- a finale that made me cry --

All these things are symbolized by Cupcakes. And Ron is my teasing tormenter.

NOW I CAN ONLY LAUGH.

I usually like to focus on what I did like over things I didn't, or at least try to write some kind of reflective essay. It's just sad that the finale is what pushed me over the edge into an all-capslock rant. Even more than "Deadlock"! Ha!

Since Daybreak's plot made no sense I expected the finale to disappoint, just not this much. Sigh. I'm a student of epic and tragedy, I know all the techniques to rend the heart. I could tell what they wanted me to feel and even what they wanted me to think, to an almost insane degree, but that didn't make it actually work. Too much WTF, I suppose. The finale seemed like it was in an argument with itself, and also the rest of the goddamn series.

If only everyone on this show could've had an arc like Gaius. You know why his part was so satisfying? Because he got to make big, tough choices. He got character growth. He was allowed resolution. He was allowed to survive, and be with someone he cared deeply about. His story made sense of his past.

Kara, Lee, Laura...? I don't think any of them got that. So much fucking wasted potential. And such a brilliant cast, too. What a way to go out. Strip clubs and contradictions! Woo!

So the question for me now, is:

Should I snark-picspam this sucker? Or should I try to explain, as calmly and thoughtfully as I can, why this disappointed me on almost every level? Maybe, maybe, maybe someone who runs this show will see it, since apparently they trawl the internets so much. Maybe they'll get why some people are so freaking unhappy. Or should I just write The Show In My Head? I've been working on something since this summer I like...a whole lot better. It builds off the promise of "Revelations", but they do find a non-cindery home. Lee carries on Laura's legacy! Kara lives and becomes Admiral, though she does not end up married with babies! The rebel Cylons have a big role in it, even! There are lingering tensions from the genocide and New Caprica! There's major stuff about reproduction! And what makes them worthy of survival!

Would any of those things be cathartic, or should I just not waste one single moment more on this show? I could just kick back, read Homer again, and make some popcorn. Sprinkle some salt and rosemary butter on it. Those things make me happy.

Let me know your thoughts. If you want to continue the snark here or anywhere, let me know. :) Group hug!

PS Those of you who liked this ep, I'm happy for you. This is just my opinion.
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Should I snark-picspam this sucker? Or should I try to explain, as calmly and thoughtfully as I can, why this disappointed me on almost every level?

Both! Both!

I've moved on from being extremely sad to pissed off. I FEEL SO CHEATED. I think my icon sums up my feelings really well.
OK! I'll consider that! Maybe snark first. Because several times in the course of that evening it did make me want to pull a Cavil. Then I realized I should just mock it energetically instead of putting myself out of misery. ;)

I need some more Icons of WTFery, though, methinks.

Maybe one with Tory being choked that says "YAY WOMEN"?

airings

7 years ago

dionusia

7 years ago

dionusia

7 years ago

airings

7 years ago

dianora2

7 years ago

Or should I just write The Show In My Head? I've been working on something since this summer I like...a whole lot better. It builds off the promise of "Revelations", but they do find a non-cindery home. Lee carries on Laura's legacy! Kara lives and becomes Admiral, though she does not end up married with babies! The rebel Cylons have a big role in it, even! There are lingering tensions from the genocide and New Caprica! There's major stuff about reproduction! And what makes them worthy of survival!

That's totally my vote. But only because I selfishly want to read it, not because I necessarily think it would be the best use of your time.
Aww. Thank you for letting me know you'd be interested.

It's funny, but over the summer I thought, "It'll be a total AU, but it might be worth doing...even if I think what we will end up getting will probably be cooler." Heh. I never thought I'd get to this point.

Still love the icon. She did have one more extraordinarily bad day, huh?

I need to go to my happy place. Cupcakescupcakescupcakescupcakes

raincitygirl

7 years ago

dionusia

7 years ago

elzed

7 years ago

dionusia

7 years ago

All the things I wanted from the show's ending -- more play on the forgiveness and reconciliation theme -- Kara being happy/alive, or at least having some moment of praise -- Laura being a badass leader, central to the Opera House revelation rather than just another toddler-herder -- Lee taking up the mantle in a new land -- the best parts of their civilization surviving -- the rebel Cylons continuing to evolve and getting some way to reproduce -- the two peoples beginning the long and difficult process of healing and dealing with each other -- answers on Kara's return, why the fucking song is so damn important -- finding out why she was the least-informed and most angstily confused angel-messenger ever, if she just came from God -- some kind of coherent mythology -- better resolutions all around -- free will breaking the cycle -- satisfying character moments -- WOMEN NOT BEING THROTTLED TO DEATH AND OTHERS GOING YAY -- crazy space family being able to stay together instead of scattering to the four winds -- a finale that made me cry --

It is SO DEPRESSING to see it all spelled out like this. Because yeah. Those were all the things I wanted, too, and I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!! I probably would have been satisfied with even a few of them. But 0 for everything? No. No cookie, show.

I am in favor of The Show In Your Head, incidentally. I imagine there is no level on which it would not be superior to the show we actually got.
Those were all the things I wanted, too, and I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!! I probably would have been satisfied with even a few of them. But 0 for everything? No. No cookie, show.

I DO NOT THINK SO EITHER. I spent a while being mad at myself for ever hoping/expecting to get at least a FEW of the things on that list, and then I thought -- fuck it. They led me to believe I'd get these things. They dangled the tray of cupcakes right in front of my nose. It is not my fault the cupcakes we had before were addictive and tasty! It is not unreasonable to have wanted another feast!

Anyway, I'm sorry if I depressed you! I sat down intending to type up some thoughtful paragraphs and all I could manage was that list. And Cupcake dog. WOE.

I am so sorry about Laura. *sympathy hugs*

I imagine there is no level on which it would not be superior to the show we actually got.

Hee hee, it would not be difficult to top, would it? I could probably even put in Starbuck/Apollo triplets on a porch swing. Not that there's anything wrong with that. *g*

Ahhh, but seriously. Roslin had a big epic funeral in my story, and everyone attended. Oh. And she left Lee her papers and her journal -- he'd read it all the time. But he's not really interested in being a leader anymore! Nope! Just wants mountaintops!

Oh, show.
"The finale seemed like it was in an argument with itself, and also the rest of the goddamn series"

Yes. This. Exactly.

I like all of the above, but I really want to see that Show in My Head fic. I think salvation through fic is our only hope.
Hee. Let's send that message out to the flists. Help me, Obi Wan Fic-obe! You're my only hope!

Write better we will, young jedi.

workerbee73

7 years ago

I think this is definitely a case for bionic snarkthrocytes.
Okay! WOO HOO!
I AM DRUNK ON CUPCAKES.

Seriously, I'm BSG-hungover, man. Could be the cupcakes too. :-)

*stares in a trance*

*comes out of trance*

Oh, decisions! I want Head!Show. And then cupcakescupcakescupckakes.
You and me both, hon. Except I have about a week's headstart on you.

I can't stop watching that clip. Ever since it came out in January -- we watched it over and over on On Demand. Poor Stains!

I want Head!Show. And then cupcakescupcakescupckakes.

I will make you some. Let's project that we're in a dream-house and sharing them. I bring over chocolate-frosted ones. Then we hug.

I need another cupcake icon, I tell you! :D
I vote for snark picspam. Get the initial gah! alhglajh out and then it will be easier to explain calmly and thoughtfully. *which is what I keep reading your journal for, I'll admit. You always manage to say it better than my flailing ;)*

The finale made me sad and admittedly it didn't end as I'd have liked. I didn't like that seemingly every question was answered by, well that was God's plan. Nope. Sorry. Don't buy that that's all there is to it. Don't build up mythology and all these plot lines just to say oh well we don't know either so lets just blame the big guy.
God's plan = the Scotch tape with which the show's creators attempt to create an ending out of disparate pieces of plot.

Note: Scotch tape is a wonderful invention, but you have to get all the pieces fitting together before you can use it if you want it to really work. Maybe that's too much hard work or something.

dionusia

7 years ago

I vote for the show in your head which is way cooler and more thought out than the crap we got in the finale. However, that may be more effort than you're willing to put in, so I would be happy with a snarky picspam. Definitely more than enough material to work with!!!
However, that may be more effort than you're willing to put in

Yeah, it may be. I had tons of fun this weekend going out to dinner and going to a play and just relaxing, and obviously I want to write my own things. I started to think, though, that maybe it would make us feel better than the picspam. I might personally be in the mood to just giggle and mock, but maybe some of my friends would be cheered by a different story? I care more about us than the show anyway!

Definitely more than enough material to work with!!!

No kidding. Watching it with you was like...Mystery Science Theater 3000! So thanks for that. :)

Great icon!
I'm up for anything! I will read your snark; I will read your thinky thoughts. I've been reading lots of reactions all weekend and have enjoyed both types. I am still in my snark phase and will probably be there for all of eternity, but am also interested in reading calm, rational posts that detail the disappointment.

Hehehe. Yes, I believe I may remain in permanent snark phase as well.

Today marks the first full week of my official breakup with my show -- or at least my breakup with my expectations for what the finale would hold, after I had an epiphany that the fetch Hera mission was crazily unmotivated and would always remain so. So I've...passed through the stages. Still doesn't remove the need for snark!

I did start to think today, though, that maybe fic would just plain make people happier. Hmm.
I'm a student of epic and tragedy, I know all the techniques to rend the heart. I could tell what they wanted me to feel and even what they wanted me to think, to an almost insane degree, but that didn't make it actually work.

I had that same problem. Technically it was a really good story, wasn't it? It was told well. Except it didn't make any sense. It was like an optical illusion.
Oh, yes, the acting was phenomenal, as usual. But most of the characters just felt at various points like pieces being moved around the board: "Go there" and "Do this" and "Now say that." Now feel something. As far as elemental drama...I didn't feel the internal struggles and ethical dilemmas and tough choices that BSG is ordinarily rife with were ever present. They fetch the magic kid, kill some people and get some revenge along the way, no one feels conflicted or sorry, Laura herds a toddler, then Kara has the divine-inspiration swoop in and plug in the coordinates. Hand of God. Ta da. So in the end most of the 'emotional' scenes it built to felt hollow and contrived and empty.

Such a shame! It's like your point about Racetrack. She couldn't pull that trigger herself? It was just...random? And I'd much rather have Kara go out in a big damn hero moment that involved...oh, I don't know, choice. Active self-sacrifice rather than whoops-I'm-done poof. I would have been much more moved by that, even if I did prefer that she get a chance to finally rest and live.
Anything you do will make me feel better, I'm sure. And those cupcakes DEFINITELY would!

I feel like, why did I bother caring about these characters' decisions when everything was apparently being decided by some higher being? And how is that anything but a way to excuse plot holes and handwave inconsistencies?

Gah. So angry. :(
*dies laughing and then cries*

I don't know...I was just as disappointed after finale and I'm not anywhere near ok with it yet. I waffle, sometimes it works for me, others it doesn't.

WOMEN NOT BEING THROTTLED TO DEATH AND OTHERS GOING YAY

I agree with your whole list, but especially this.

Your head show sounds great, but snark may be a quicker way to sanity.

Weirdly, I dreamed about cupcakes last night, no lie. Shelves and shelves of them.

I watched that clip and laughed for about five minutes. Thank you for sharing it.

I'm in love with the concise efficiency of your paragraph of everything you were hoping for. Me too. Especially the last bit. I expected to cry. I was ready for it. But I didn't shed a single tear while watching it. Instead I was filled with rage.

...But that only lasted so long. Now I'm crying. I'd like to get to the laughter stage.
Should I snark-picspam this sucker? Or should I try to explain, as calmly and thoughtfully as I can, why this disappointed me on almost every level?

Is it too much to ask for you to do both? *G*

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Personally, I would love to read your fic. I liked pretty much nothing about the finale so an AU sounds great.

But really, post whatever will make you feel better.
All three choices sound good to me, but the fic sounds particularly awesome.

*hugs back*

I'm still trying to deal with the whole mess and accept it on some level. Though I know nothing will ever ever make me think it was the ending this show had the potential for. Or was the ending Kara, Lee, or Kara/Lee deserved. I mean, they gave of themselves more than anyone else in the fleet! And just got abandoned without any recognition for their roles as heroes or verbal/physical affirmation of love or *anything* for them as the longest-running ship in the show. Nice, RDM. Yeah, *that* says epic and fitting.

I too am happy for those who liked it, though. I mean, I'll never not love the show as a whole, as it brought me the enjoyment of such amazing characters.
Should I snark-picspam this sucker? Or should I try to explain, as calmly and thoughtfully as I can, why this disappointed me on almost every level?

I vote for both, please.

I'm going to bed soon but have the day off tomorrow and plan to use it venting my spleen on LJ, in my own journal and in the journals of fine folks such as yourself. I am hoping it will be cathartic.
*hugs*

I know I'm a little late but after spending so many hours on Friday and Saturday, I needed a break for my brain and my broken heart. The finale was just crap, we didn't get any real answers and it was if God said it was okay it was. We got no real explanations for anything introduced in the last 4 years.

I say go forth with your fic, it sounds hell of lot more interesting then the finale and I will enjoy reading it.
Or should I just write The Show In My Head?
I vote for this. :)

I actually liked the finale (liked, not loved). I must say though, that now that I read your list of things you missed, I nodded in agreement for each point.
Ron::Victoria Cupcake Dog::Me

The pained look in the tortured eyes of Cupcake Dog pretty much sums up how I as a viewer felt on Friday night.


Best. Analogy. Ever. I too felt like the Cupcake Dog, especially in the flashback scene where Kara and Lee were about to get it on mere feet away from her fiance/his brother and I was on the edge of my seat screaming at the screen for them to "Do it, young!pilots! Doooooo it!" because of an entire season with very little interaction between the two of them. Woe. (Give usthe dog a damn cupcake FFS. That's just cruel.)

All the things I wanted from the show's ending -- more play on the forgiveness and reconciliation theme -- Kara being happy/alive, or at least having some moment of praise -- Laura being a badass leader, central to the Opera House revelation rather than just another toddler-herder -- Lee taking up the mantle in a new land -- the best parts of their civilization surviving -- the rebel Cylons continuing to evolve and getting some way to reproduce -- the two peoples beginning the long and difficult process of healing and dealing with each other -- answers on Kara's return, why the fucking song is so damn important -- finding out why she was the least-informed and most angstily confused angel-messenger ever, if she just came from God -- some kind of coherent mythology -- better resolutions all around -- free will breaking the cycle -- satisfying character moments -- WOMEN NOT BEING THROTTLED TO DEATH AND OTHERS GOING YAY -- crazy space family being able to stay together instead of scattering to the four winds -- a finale that made me cry --

...The finale seemed like it was in an argument with itself, and also the rest of the goddamn series.


*nods until my head wobbles off* These are exactly the things that have woke me up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat over the past week (I don't understand why my brain can't just give me dreams of comforting an abandoned Lee in a quiet field under the stars, but whatever.). I figure that where I wanted answers, the finale offered me a plate of ambiguity and where I wanted ambiguity, the finale hit me over the head with a sledgehammer. Utterly unsatisfying.

Kara, Lee, Laura...? I don't think any of them got that. So much fucking wasted potential.

EXACTLY. I can be ridiculously forgiving of crappy plot if the characters are served well, but what the finale (and so much of this season for that matter) did to this (previously) wondrously complex people was simultaneously enraging and heartbreaking. :(

I'd be interested in anything you care to create about the show, but I couldn't blame you if you wanted to walk away from BSG and never look back. Maybe we'd all be saner that way? Also, thank you for point me toward your journal--I desperately needed in that group hug (and the snark doesn't hurt!). :)